Guide to demon.* Newsgroups

This page lists all the newsgroups in the demon.* hierarchy, along with information about what they are used for. I have tried to split this list into sections so that it is easy to find the newsgroup that you are looking for. This information has mostly been taken from the Which Newsgroup FAQ. Richard Ashton maintained this FAQ when I was creating these pages, so thanks go to him for letting me use it as a basis. The FAQ is now maintained by John Hall.

Index of Groups

To jump to information about a specific newsgroup, select its name from the list below.

demon.adverts
demon.adverts.d
demon.announce
demon.answers
demon.archives.announce
demon.archives.d
demon.games
demon.homepages.adverts
demon.homepages.authoring
demon.ip.cppnews
demon.ip.developers
demon.ip.discoveries
demon.ip.support
demon.ip.support.amiga
demon.ip.support.archimedes
demon.ip.support.atari
demon.ip.support.ie4
demon.ip.support.mac
demon.ip.support.newuser
demon.ip.support.nt
demon.ip.support.os2
demon.ip.support.other
demon.ip.support.pc
demon.ip.support.pc.announce
demon.ip.support.turnpike
demon.ip.support.unix
demon.ip.support.win95
demon.ip.support.winsock
demon.ip.winsock
demon.ip.winsock.dics
demon.ip.www
demon.local
demon.news
demon.nl.announce
demon.nl.babbel
demon.nl.hardware
demon.nl.homepages
demon.nl.mopper
demon.nl.software.algemeen
demon.nl.software.os
demon.nl.support
demon.nl.technobabbel
demon.pops
demon.sales
demon.sales.d
demon.security
demon.security.keys
demon.service
demon.service.homepages
demon.service.isdn
demon.tech.amiga
demon.tech.archimedes
demon.tech.atari
demon.tech.mac
demon.tech.modems
demon.tech.pc
demon.tech.unix
demon.test
demon.tickets

General Rules for demon.* Newsgroups

To tell the truth, there are very few solid, set-in-stone rules. The most common mistake people make is to post "binaries" (any form of file attached to a news posting). These block up the newsfeeds, and are very annoying, and are also a contravention of the Demon News AUP, which all Demon customers must abide by.

Netiquette is important in demon.* newsgroups. It's a simple philosophy - don't be silly! Just a tip: think before you post, and make sure you've got the right group! Off-topic posting (i.e. posting in the wrong group) is very annoying, but if you read this page you shouldn't have a problem! Don't forget: if you look in the wrong place, you won't find the people you want to talk to. If you lurk in a newsgroup for a couple of weeks before posting, you'll soon get the hang of what happens. The only newsgroup which this doesn't apply to is demon.ip.support.newuser.

Charters for Demon Internet Newsgroups

Only the two latestly-created demon.* newsgroups have charters. These are demon.games and demon.ip.support.ie4. demon.ip.support.nt also included a sort-of charter in its control message.

All new demon.* newsgroups will have the following in their charters, and it also applies to all existing demon.* newsgroups.

The posting of "binaries", of any size, is not permitted.

Users should also take care to configure their newsreader software so as to avoid posting "VCards", "HTML", "wallpaper" or other extraneous material. ie: articles should be simple text.

How Far do Demon Groups Travel?

All Demon newsgroups are available worldwide on any news server which wants to carry them, not just to Demon subscribers. However, many servers don't carry them, so if you want to have an international discussion use a non-Demon group. There are also many uk.* groups now available.

If you read any uk.* newsgroups it is highly recommended that you subscribe to the very low volume newsgroup uk.net.news.announce to keep up with proposed new groups, votes, committee elections etc.

If you want to have a public discussion within Demon's domain (i.e. mainly Demon subscribers, with a few guests looking in from elsewhere), use the list of Demon groups below to decide which one to use.

How Long are Messages Retained on the Newsserver

demon.* groups are retained for much longer than other groups on Demon's newsserver. Most groups retain articles for 14 days. The demon.* hierarchy groups retain articles for 28 days, except demon.announce (30 days) and demon.test (7 days). The full expire times for Demon's newsserver can be found here.

Who is in charge of the demon.* Hierarchy?

The Demon Internet Newsmaster (newsmaster@demon.net) is the person who issues control messages etc. for the demon.* hierarchy. All new control messages for the demon.* hierarchy are signed with the demon.news PGP key.

What is a Moderated Newsgroup?

You cannot post to a moderated newsgroup in the demon.* hierarchy. All moderated groups are noted as such by being marked (moderated). These groups are used for announcements by Demon Internet.

Demon Internet Announcements

demon.announce
(moderated)

Demon Internet announcements (Moderated)
This is the most important group in the demon.* hierarchy. It is a moderated newsgroup used for the posting of official announcements by Demon Internet. It is recommended, if not essential, for all Demon Internet customers to subscribe to this.
There is also a mailing list version of this newsgroup, and an archive of previous announcements. Information about both of these is here.

Help for New Users

demon.ip.support.newuser
This group is for the hesitant new user to make postings.

Lurking is not required, but flaming is simply not allowed.

Whilst by definition discussion of the Demon Turnpike software is not off-topic here, you may find more/better support in the dedicated group demon.ip.support.turnpike

Reading of the below-mentioned FAQs is encouraged, as they are a mountain of knowledge to help new users get started on the Internet.

FAQ: HTML Version or v4.08 Part 1 "Getting Started" (Plain Text) and Part 2 "Going Further" (Plain Text). The latest plain text versions available can be found on the FTP server in this directory.

demon.answers
(moderated)

FAQs relating to the Demon Service (Moderated)
FAQs for a variety of demon.* newsgroups are posted here on a regular basis. FAQs give a good introduction to a newsgroup, and it is strongly recommended that you read the FAQ for a group before diving in. The information contained within FAQs is relavant to most users, but it can be especially useful for new users.
My FAQs Page provides links to all the FAQs for demon.* newsgroups, many of which are posted regularly to demon.answers
Relevant Document: demon.answers Submission Guidelines for FAQ Writers.

The Demon Internet (DIS) Meta-FAQ is a very good source of pointers to useful information for Demon customers. It is available as HTML Version or Plain Text.

Internet connection problems and queries

demon.ip.support
General support issues
Non-computer-specific other Internet support.

Use it when you're sure that the problem or question is to do with Demon's setup, or any other computers on the Internet - if it's something to do with your setup use the support group appropriate to your computer type.

Note there are also other non-specific groups - these will be mentioned below.

Meta-FAQ (i.e. pointers to information): HTML Version or Plain Text.

The demon.ip.support.* subhierarchy is used for Internet connection problems and queries for which you require support. They are not for general computing issues. All of these groups are read by experts in the fields, and sometimes Demon employees, who will try to help with your problem as much as possible.

Software-specific demon.ip.support.* groups

Two groups specific to software packages exist in the demon.ip.support.* subhierarchy. These are:

demon.ip.support.turnpike
Turnpike support issues
Support for the Turnpike software package.

The Turnpike software suite is now the standard software supplied by Demon for connection to their services. This group has many experts who can help with any problems you may have with it.

Official Turnpike FAQ: HTML Version.

demon.ip.support.ie4
Use of Microsoft's IE4 with Demon Internet.
Support for Microsoft Internet Explorer version 4.

This newsgroup is for the discussion of the use of Microsoft Internet Explorer 4, which particular reference to its use by Demon Internet Customers.

Charter:

  • This newsgroup is for the discussion of the use of Microsoft Internet Explorer version 4, with particular reference to its use by Demon Internet Customers.
  • It is expected that most articles will be posted by users of IE4. As such, discussion of the relative merits of particular browsers will be unwelcome. Advocacy groups exist for this sort of traffic.
  • Binary postings are not permitted in this group.
  • Also, please note that some people will not be using IE4 to read the articles, so users should take particular care, even in this newsgroup, to avoid posting articles which contain HTML sections. Plain text should be used exclusively.

Discussions of future releases of Microsoft Internet Explorer (i.e. IE5) are also on-topic for this group.

Demon Internet's general IE4 FAQ can be found here.

Platform-specific Internet Connection Support Groups

The remainder of the demon.ip.support.* subhierarchy contains newsgroups specifically for the Internet connection support of various operating systems. These newsgroup titles are fairly self-explanatory, but are nevertheless listed here for the sake of completeness.

demon.ip.support.pc and
demon.ip.support.pc.announce
(moderated)

demon.ip.support.pc: PC support issues
demon.ip.support.pc.announce: PC related announcements (Moderated)
demon.ip.support.pc is for DOS (not Windows) Internet Connection support.

demon.ip.support.pc.announce is a moderated group that would have been used in the past for announcements relating to Demon's DOS software. This group is no longer used.

FAQ: HTML Version or Plain Text.
DOS-Meta FAQ: Useful Information for MSDOS Users: HTML Version or Plain Text.
MS-DOS Applications For Internet Use: HTML Version or Plain Text.
If Windows users visit this group by mistake, this will explain where they should go instead.
Demon Internet's old official guide to connecting to Demon using thier 'supported' DOS software (KA9Q) can be found here.

demon.ip.support.winsock
This group is for Windows 3.1 Internet Connection support.
The old demon.ip.support.winsock FAQ was last updated and posted 1 September 1997, but it is proabably still relevant, and is available in plain text here.

demon.ip.support.win95
Windows 95 IP support issues.
This group is for Windows 95 / 98 Internet Connection support.
There is a commonly-requested document about setting up Internet access under Win95 without using Turnpike available here. It is also downloadable as a Microsoft Word document here, and as a plain text file here. A selection of useful files (including plain text versions of this and modem.txt) are included in this file.

demon.ip.support.nt
Connecting to Demon Internet with Windows NT.
This group is for Windows NT Internet Connection support.

demon.ip.support.nt is a friendly forum for the discussion of issues relating to using Microsoft Windows NT to connect to Demon Internet and issues directly related to using the Internet via Demon with all versions of Microsoft Windows NT.

Here are typical subjects that readers are likely to respond to favorably in this newsgroup:

  • How do I setup Windows NT to access Demon?
  • How do I used Exchange or Outlook on NT to get my mail?
  • What internet software packages work with Windows NT and Demon?
  • I can't access IRC/FTP/MAIL/NEWS/IRC/WWW using Windows NT - Help?
There is more information about the charter for this group, and other details, in the original newgroup control message.
There is a document entitled Configuring NT4 Workstation for connection to Demon Internet available here.
There is a document for Configuring Windows NT's Remote Access Server (RAS) (for NT 3.5), available here.

demon.ip.support.os2
This group is for IBM OS/2 and Warp Internet Connection support.
OS/2 and WARP TCP/IP FAQ is available here.
How to connect WARP TCP/IP to Demon: basic version and advanced version.

demon.ip.support.unix
Unix support issues
This group is for Unix (including Linux) Internet Connection support.
A page of links to documents explaining how to connect Linux to Demon can be found here.
Another good page, not listed in the page of links mentioned above, is here.

demon.ip.support.mac
Mac support issues
This group is for Apple Macintosh/PowerMac Internet Connection support.
FAQ: Part 1 (Plain Text) and Part 2 (Plain Text).

demon.ip.support.amiga
Amiga support issues
This group is for Amiga Internet Connection support.
There is an Amiga "Problems FAQ" available here.

demon.ip.support.archimedes
Archimedes support issues
This group is for Acorn RISCOS (Archimedes) Internet Connection support.
Relevant FAQ: An Internet Starter Pack - for ACORN RISC OS 3.1+ Computers is available here.

demon.ip.support.atari
Atari support issues
This group is for Atari ST Internet Connection support.

demon.ip.support.other
Support issues specific to other platforms
This group is for Internet Connection support for other computers.

demon.ip.*

These last few newsgroups in the demon.ip.* subhierarchy are for IP (Internet Protocol) computing issues only - not general computing issues.

demon.ip.www
World Wide Web Related Discussion
This group appears to be now used for self-help between customers using Demon Commercial Web services.
Demon Internet have their own FAQs about their Commercial Web Services, available here.

demon.ip.developers
This group is for developers of software for use with Demon.

demon.ip.discoveries
Discoveries on the Net
This group is for posting your discoveries on the Internet (URLs etc.)

demon.ip.winsock
For users of Winsock
This group has been superceded by demon.ip.support.winsock. Please use that instead.

demon.ip.winsock.dics
DICS PD software to access Demon Internet
This group is specifically for the DICS Windows software package.

demon.ip.cppnews
For users of the Cppnews package
This group is specifically for the CPPNEWS DOS mail/news package.

demon.tech.*

This subhierarchy is for general (i.e. non-Internet) computing issues. These are not support groups, but there are nevertheless always people who can help.

It is important to note that these groups are used mainly by Demon customers only, and therefore these groups may have a 'local' feel, and are relatively low-traffic. In the big wide world of Usenet (especially the comp.* hierarchy), there are many more specific technical computing groups, but the traffic level is much higher, often unmanageable.

demon.tech.modems
This group is for Modems and non-Internet comms software discussions.

If you're having problems with your connection, and you think the problem may lie with your modem, demon.tech.modems is usually a very useful and helpful group to visit. It would, of course, be a good idea to first read the FAQs listed below.

FAQ: HTML Version or Plain Text.
56k (V.90, K56Flex, X2) FAQ: Part 1 (Plain Text) and Part 2 (Plain Text)
Demon Internet have an old guide for configuring a modem for connecting to the Internet, which is available here.

The rest of the demon.tech.* hierarchy is concerned with general (non-Internet) computing issues for various platforms. These groups are listed below.

demon.tech.*
demon.tech.amiga
Amiga discussions.
demon.tech.atari
Atari ST discussions.
demon.tech.archimedes
Acorn RISCOS (Archimedes) discussions.
demon.tech.pc
IBM-compatible PC (DOS, Windows and OS/2) discussions.
demon.tech.mac
MacOS discussions.
uk.comp.sys.mac is the preferred group now, however, as it covers a wider audience, but its posting level is still easily manageable.
demon.tech.unix
Unix computing (including PC Unix - e.g. Linux) discussions.

Advertising Groups

demon.adverts and demon.adverts.d
demon.adverts: Personal and commercial adverts by Demon members
demon.adverts.d: Discussion area for demon.adverts
demon.adverts is for personal and commercial adverts by Demon customers. The advert only is to be posted to demon.adverts - the Followup-To should be set to demon.adverts.d which is the discussion group for demon.adverts

Adverts for homepages should be posted to demon.homepages.adverts, which is described in the following section.

Newsgroups for Demon Customer Homepages

demon.homepages.authoring
The creation of homepages at Demon Internet.
This newsgroup is for discussion of the creation of pages on the Demon "homepages" service. Topics will include HTML, authoring software, and other similar issues as they relate to the homepages.
FAQ: HTML Version or Part 1 (Plain Text) and Part 2 (Plain Text).
Demon Internet also maintain their own FAQs about their homepages service here.
There is also some useful information available on this page.

demon.homepages.adverts
Announcements of the contents of Homepages at Demon.
This newsgroups is for announcements such as "try my web page about xxx". These announcements must be for demon "homepages" only, and must be reasonably brief and to the point.

Unless a significant amount of restructuring of a site has occurred, the announcement should not be repeated. It would be extremely unusual for there to be any necessity to make any new announcement before a month has elapsed.

demon.service.homepages
Demon Internet Ltd. homepages service issues.
This little used newsgroup is for service aspects of the homepages - such as availability, features, performance or other issues. This would also be the place to discuss the Acceptable Use Policy for the pages, or other aspects of the material to be found on homepages. It is not for adverts for homepages! This is what demon.homepages.adverts is for!

demon.archives.* - Newsgroups for the Demon FTP Server

demon.archives.announce
(moderated)

Uploads to ftp.demon.co.uk (moderated)
This is a moderated group used to announce new files being placed on the Demon FTP server (ftp.demon.co.uk).
Instructions for uploading to ftp.demon.co.uk can be found here.

demon.archives.d
Discussion of Uploads
This is a discussion area for the Demon FTP server (ftp.demon.co.uk). It can be used to discuss new files placed on the server (from demon.archives.announce). It is mostly used for general discussion of the FTP server, such as mirroring policies and possible alterations to the service.
Information about Demon's FTP service can be found here, and a FAQ is available as HTML or plain text.
Demon Internet's general information about FTP is available as HTML or plain text.

Miscellaneous demon.* Newsgroups

Despite being the 'oddments' of the demon.* hierarchy, these newsgroups are some of the most important.

demon.service
Complaints, Praise etc. at the level of Service
Ah... the 'anything goes' newsgroup. For moaning, and general discussion of the service provided by Demon Internet.

As it is often described, "it was created to allow subscribers to let off steam in public." This is more-or-less a correct description, so be warned - there is a very high flame content.

Note: this is not a support group, and therefore no response from Demon staff should be expected. Such comments, however, are fairly common on service issues, so you may get lucky.

FAQ: Part 1 "Facts" (Plain Text) and Part 2 "Culture" (Plain Text)

demon.service.isdn
This group is for the discussion of ISDN service issues.
FAQ: Plain Text Version
Demon Internet's Official ISDN FAQ: HTML Version or Plain Text.

demon.news
Discussion/proposals for Demon groups
This group is only for discussion about the demon.* newsgroup hierarchy, and the creation of new newsgroups.

It is not for "news" about Demon Internet, nor for discussion about the Demon news server, nor discussion relating to other newsgroup hierarchies.

Mini-FAQ: Plain Text Version or HTML Version

demon.games
Discussion of Online Games running on Demon's servers
Charter:
  • demon.games is for discussion of online games playing, with special reference to those games for which Demon runs servers.
  • Articles should be of general interest; email or the chat systems of the particular games should be used for private or ephemeral conversations likely to concern only one or two people.
  • Articles should relate specifically to online games. General questions about configuration or technical support issues should be asked in more appropriate newsgroups.
  • Where articles refer to a single game they should include the name of that game in their subject to assist automatic killing of articles which will not be of interest to all.
  • The posting of "binaries", of any size, is not permitted.
  • Users should also take care to configure their newsreader software so as to avoid posting "VCards", "HTML", "wallpaper" or other extraneous material. ie: articles should be simple text.

On the Demon Games site, there is a small, official FAQ, but not directly related with this group.

demon.local
Local Chatter on any subject!

Don't get a life, get demon.local!

The Guardian of the Sig series, by Mike Fleming, is, in a way, the "official history of demon.local".
The Septic Tank FAQ is the definitive FAQ on that subject, and could be called demon.local's official FAQ!

demon.pops
This group is for discussion of new and existing Points of Presence (PoPs)
Demon's official FAQ about access numbers can is available as HTML or plain text.
A list of Demon's local access numbers is available here.

demon.security
This group is for discussion of security or encryption issues

demon.security.keys
This group is for the posting of public keys (e.g. for PGP)
The alt.security.keydist FAQ is cross-posted here occasionally: HTML Version

demon.test
Test messages
This group is for the posting of test messages to test your setup and make sure that your newsreader works properly.

You might get an automated reply to a test message, but certainly not if you include the word ignore in the body of the post.

demon.tickets
(moderated)

Service messages passed to Demon from other Internet providers. This is highly technical information and is for information only.

It is mostly used now for announcements of any SPAM cancels made in the demon.* hierachy.

Spam cancelling is carried out in the demon.* hierarchy by Mrs Mopp.

demon.sales
(moderated)
demon.sales.d
In the good ol' days of Demon, they used to sell things (e.g. modems). These groups were related to this.

demon.sales is a moderated group that was used as an area to announce new items for sale.

demon.sales.d is the discussion area for messages posted in demon.sales

Obviously, these groups are now completely dead, and the reason that they remain on the active list is simply because they cannot be properly removed.

demon.nl.* - the demon.nl (Dutch) service subhierarchy

The subhierarchy is for the Dutch part of the Demon service - demon.nl.

demon.nl.announce
(moderated)

Demon Internet Nederland announcements (moderated)
Mededelingen Demon Internet Nederland (Gemodereerd)
Demon.nl.announce is a moderated newsgroup in which Demon Internet makes public announcements concerning the Demon service, such as relevant technical issues or new developments of Demon Nederland. Demon Internet advises its customers to subscribe to this newsgroup. It is not possible to post in this newsgroup.
Demon.nl.announce is een newsgroup waarin Demon Internet Nederland aankondigingen doet. Dit kunnen bijvoorbeeld mededelingen over nieuwe of veranderde services zijn of aankondigingen van werkzaamheden. Demon raadt haar abonnees aan deze nieuwsgroep te lezen. Er kan in deze newsgroep niet gepost worden.
Messages posted to demon.nl.announce are archived here, where there is also a mailing list version available.

demon.nl.support
General Dutch Service support issues.
Algemene Supportkwesties v.d. Nederlandse Service.

questions about and problems with Demon
vragen over en problemen met Demon

Demon.nl.support is a non-moderated newsgroup in which issues related to the use of a demon.nl account can be discussed. Postings concerning for instance: suggestions to improve the service, tips for other users, etc.

Postings in demon.nl.support will be read by Demon Internet staff. They will often be addressed by our staff, on an informal basis, either through a private email to the poster or through a public reply when justified. Technical questions specifically addressed to Demon Internet's technical support should however not be posted in this newsgroup, they should be directed by email to support@demon.nl.

Binary and commercial postings are not allowed in this newsgroup.

Demon.nl.support is een ongemodereerde newsgroup waarin over onderwerpen gepraat kan worden die te maken hebben met het account van Demon Internet. Dit kunnen bijvoorbeeld vragen zijn over: suggesties over de services van Demon, tips voor andere gebruikers, etc.

De postings in demon.nl.support worden door Demon-Internet medewerkers gelezen en buiten de normale taken van de support-afdeling kunnen ze regelmatig beantwoord worden, ofwel per e-mail naar de poster, ofwel door een posting in deze newsgroup indien relevant. Technische vragen die specifiek aan de helpdesk van Demon gericht zijn horen echter niet in de nieuwsgroep thuis: daarvoor is support@demon.nl. Ook zijn binaries en commerciele postings niet toegestaan.

Support is available from the Demon Internet Nederland website, here.

demon.nl.babbel
Local Dutch chatter
Lokale Nederlandse Chats

"babbling" over arbitrary topics
babbelen over elk onderwerp

Demon.nl.babbel is an unmoderated newsgroup for Demon Internet users in which it is allowed to "babble" about any topic. The group is also available to non-Demon users.

Babbling threads of a more technical nature are better placed in demon.nl.technobabbel, given the more general character of demon.nl.babbel.

Demon.nl.babbel is een ongemodereerde newsgroup voor gebruikers van Demon Nederland waarin over elk onderwerp gebabbeld kan worden. De newsgroup is ook voor niet-Demongebruikers beschikbaar.

Babbel-threads van meer technische aard kunnen plaatsvinden in demon.nl.technobabbel, gezien het algemene en open karakter van deze newsgroup.

demon.nl.hardware
discussions about hardware
vragen over en problemen met hardware
Demon.nl.hardware is an unmoderated newsgroup for general discussions about hardware. The emphasis is, of course, on hardware such as modems and ISDN equipment which is used to connect to Demon Internet. Discussions on topics concerning computer hardware in general can also be found in this newsgroup.

The postings in demon.nl.hardware are read by Demon Internet staff, and can be answered outside of the normal hours of the Support Department, either per e-mail directly to the user posting the question, or via a posting to the newsgroup, if the information is considered relevant to everyone.

Technical questions that are specifically directed to the Demon helpdesk do not belong in this newsgroup; please use support@demon.nl for this.

Binaries and commercial postings are not permitted in this news-group.

Demon.nl.hardware is een ongemodereerde newsgroup waarin over onderwerpen gepraat kan worden die te maken hebben met hardware. Hierbij ligt de nadruk met name op modems en isdn-apparatuur welke gebruikt wordt om verbinding te maken met Demon Internet. Ook andere onderwerpen van algemene aard met betrekking tot algemene PC hardware kunnen hier besproken worden.

De postings in demon.nl.hardware worden door Demon-Internet medewerkers gelezen en buiten de normale taken van de support-afdeling kunnen ze beantwoord worden, ofwel per e-mail naar de poster, ofwel door een posting in deze newsgroup indien relevant. Technische vragen die specifiek aan de helpdesk van Demon gericht zijn horen echter niet in de newsgroup thuis: daarvoor is support@demon.nl. Ook zijn binaries en commerciele postings niet toegestaan.

demon.nl.homepages
discussions of Demon homepages
discussies over Demon homepages
Demon.nl.homepages is an unmoderated newsgroup intended for discussions on any aspect of homepages. Example topics could be HTML, java or other related subjects. Experienced homepage users here.

The postings in demon.nl.homepages are read by Demon Internet staff, and can be answered outside of the normal hours of the Support Department. Technical questions concerning the homepages server that are specifically directed to the Demon Helpdesk do not belong in this newsgroup; please use support@demon.nl for this.

This newsgroup is NOT to be used to announce or solicit visitors to your homepages. Binaries and commercial postings are also not permitted in this newsgroup.

Demon.nl.homepages is een ongemodereerde newsgroup waarin over onderwerpen gepraat kan worden die te maken hebben met homepages. Hierbij kan men denken aan HTML, Java en andere aanverwante onderwerpen. Ervaren homepage-ontwerpers kunnen hun kennis op deze wijze delen met onervaren gebruikers.

De postings in demon.nl.homepages worden door Demon-Internet medewerkers gelezen en buiten de normale taken van de support-afdeling kunnen ze beantwoord worden. Technische vragen met betrekking tot problemen met de homepages-server die specifiek aan de helpdesk van Demon gericht zijn horen echter niet in de newsgroup thuis: daarvoor is support@demon.nl.

Deze newsgroep is met name NIET bedoeld voor het bekendmaken en oproepen tot het bezoeken van nieuwe sites/homepages. Ook zijn binaries en commerciele postings niet toegestaan.

demon.nl.mopper
grumbling and letting off steam
mopperen en stoom afblazen
Demon.nl.mopper is an unmoderated newsgroup where everyone can grumble and let off steam about the services and quality of Demon Internet. The group will be closely watched by Demon Internet staff, although there is no guarantee that any particular complaint will receive an official response from Demon Internet.

The postings in Demon.nl.mopper may be read by Demon staff and may receive answers from Demon, although this is not one of the official tasks of the support department. If you want to be assured of a response from Demon Internet, do not use this newsgroup, rather, send your query to support@demon.nl.

Commercial postings and binaries are not permitted in this newsgroup.

Demon.nl.mopper is een ongemodereerde newsgroup waarin iedereen vrij en openbaar kan mopperen en stoom kan afblazen omtrent de dienstverlening en services van Demon Internet. Deze newsgroup zal door Demon nauwlettend in de gaten worden gehouden, doch niet elke klacht leidt via deze newsgroup automatisch tot een officiele reactie van Demon Internet.

De postings in demon.nl.mopper worden door Demon-Internet medewerkers gelezen en buiten de normale taken van de support-afdeling kunnen deze beantwoord worden. Klachten waar een officiele reactie van Demon Internet op gewenst is, horen niet in deze newsgroup thuis: daarvoor is support@demon.nl. Ook zijn binaries en commerciele postings niet toegestaan.

demon.nl.software.algemeen
general discussions about software
algemene discussies over software
Demon.nl.software.algemeen is an unmoderated newsgroup for general discussions about software. The emphasis is, of course, on software which is used in combination with Demon Internet and the Internet in general. This newsgroup is not to be used to argue the merits or demerits of different programs or operating systems, although discussing the technical merits of a particular program or OS is on topic. (For example a discussion of the merits of a feature of vi or emacs is on topic, discussions of whether emacs or vi is the better editor are unwelcome).

The postings in demon.nl.software.algemeen are read by Demon Internet staff, and can be answered outside of the normal hours of the Support Department, either per e-mail directly to the user posting the question, or via a posting to the newsgroup, if the information is considered relevant to everyone.

Technical questions that are specifically directed to the Demon helpdesk do not belong in this newsgroup; please use support@demon.nl for this.

Binaries and commercial postings are not permitted in this newsgroup.

Demon.nl.software.algemeen is een ongemodereerde newsgroup waarin over onderwerpen gepraat kan worden die te maken hebben met software in het algemeen. Hierbij ligt de nadruk vooral op software welke gebruikt zal worden in combinatie met Demon Internet en het internet in het algemeen.

Deze nieuwsgroep is niet bedoeld om over de voor- en nadelen van bepaalde software danwel besturingssystemen te discussieeren. Het discussieeren over de eigenschappen van een bepaald programma of besturingssysteem is wel toegestaan. (Bijvoorbeeld: Een discussie over de voor- en nadelen van een bepaalde functie in vi en emacs is toegestaan, maar een discussie over welke van de twee programma's de beter editor is niet.)

De postings in demon.nl.software.algemeen worden door Demon-Internet medewerkers gelezen en buiten de normale taken van de support-afdeling kunnen ze beantwoord worden, ofwel per e-mail naar de poster, ofwel door een posting in deze newsgroup indien relevant.

Technische vragen die specifiek aan de helpdesk van Demon gericht zijn horen echter niet in de newsgroup thuis: daarvoor is support@demon.nl.

Binaries en commerciele postings zijn niet toegestaan in deze nieuwsgroep.

demon.nl.software.os
Questions about and problems with software
vragen over en problemen met software
Demon.nl.software.os is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of subjects relating to software and operating systems in general. The emphasis is on connecting with Demon Internet. Other software related subjects may also be discussed here.

This newsgroup is not to be used to argue the merits or demerits of different programs or operating systems, although discussing the technical merits of a particular program or OS is on topic. (For example a discussion of the merits of say, memory management in an operating system is on topic, discussions of whether Windows, NT or Unix is a better operating system are unwelcome).

The postings in demon.nl.software.os may be read by Demon staff and may receive answers from Demon, although this is not one of the official tasks of the support department. If you want to be assured of a response from Demon Internet, do not use this newsgroup, rather, send your query to support@demon.nl.

Commercial postings and binaries are not permitted in this newsgroup.

Demon.nl.software.os is een ongemodereerde newsgroup waarin over onderwerpen gepraat kan worden die te maken hebben met software en besturingsystemen in het bijzonder. Hierbij ligt de nadruk met name op het maken van een internet verbinding met Demon Internet. Ook andere onderwerpen kunnen in deze groep besproken worden.

Deze nieuwsgroep is niet bedoeld om over de voor- en nadelen van bepaalde software danwel besturingssystemen te discussieeren. Het discussieeren over de eigenschappen van een bepaald programma is wel toegestaan. (Bijvoorbeeld: een discussie over het geheugenbeheer van een besturingssysteem is toegestaan, maar discussies of Windows NT of UNIX het betere besturingssysteem is niet.)

De postings in demon.nl.software.os worden door Demon-Internet medewerkers gelezen en buiten de normale taken van de support-afdeling kunnen ze regelmatig beantwoord worden, ofwel per e-mail naar de poster, ofwel door een posting in deze newsgroup indien relevant. Technische vragen die specifiek aan de helpdesk van Demon gericht zijn horen echter niet in de newsgroup thuis: daarvoor is support@demon.nl.

Commerciele postings en binaries zijn niet toegestaan in deze nieuwsgroep.

demon.nl.technobabbel
chat about technical subjects
babbelen over technische onderwerpen
Demon.nl.technobabbel is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of technical subjects in general which are not directly related to the services of Demon Internet and which do not fall under the very general character of demon.nl.babbel. The group is also applicable to non Demon users.

Commercial postings and binaries are not permitted in this newsgroup.

Demon.nl.technobabbel is een ongemodereerde newsgroup waarin over elk technisch onderwerp gebabbeld kan worden, welke niet direct gerelateerd zijn aan services van Demon Internet en welke niet vallen onder het zeer algemene en open karakter van demon.nl.babbel. De newsgroup is ook voor niet-Demongebruikers beschikbaar. Binaries of commerciele postings zijn niet toegestaan.


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